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Commoncents's avatar

I am 63 years old and only knew 1 retarded kid my whole life up until I was about 30. Yes I said retarded, then something happened. You cant BS a guy thats seen the whole thing unfold so please dont, it just makes me angry.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello Commoncents. I'm a few years up on you, but have experienced the same observations. I graduated from a large high school of over 1800 students. There were perhaps a half-dozen somewhat mentally deficient students, and none would have been diagnosed as autistic. I graduated in the heady throws of 1969...

My first contact with what is now considered an autistic child was in 1989. Upon further inquiry I understood the child had been vaccinated multiple times since birth, and his mother was connecting the dots... Her lawsuit for liability was not affordable.

When I look around now, I see evidence of mentally impaired adults and children in nearly every public venue. Methinks numerous persons employed within political and military positions are on the autism spectrum... No one seems to notice, as there are no "normalized" control groups for analyses...

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John Hasse's avatar

Consider the Amish. THERE is a 'control group'. The conclusions are obvious, so the question cannot be asked.

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Wayne Horton's avatar

There. Done. I just considered the Amish… now tell me do you have a point?

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello John Hasse. Too true. Main stream research teams will continue to avoid *actual* scientific method, as their funding comes from operative agencies who's main goal is to incite civil chaos. The horror show will continue. Alas...

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Wayne Horton's avatar

So you believe that your highschool population represented a reliable sample of the population to make observations of. Is it possible that some children were streamed away from your high school?

Did they ever cover correlation, causation, and coincidence when you were in school? Lots of things were discovered and defined after the first vaccines were developed in 1796… did vaccines also cause automobiles, and internet trolls? What distopian cess pool have I wandered into here?

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello Wayne Horton. Most persons attending schools during the 1960's were taught essential skills such as reading, writing, mathematics, and perhaps a smattering of American history. In my case, I elected to study basic electronics for three years. Other students were offered various industrial arts classes, as well as other courses including homemaking, etc. Schools in the 1950's through 1970's actually taught real skills.

I don't know what you learned in YOUR dystopian cesspool, but most of my subsequent learning was self taught and hard won...

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Wayne Horton's avatar

In my high school there was a whole wing dedicated to tech classes, we had garages for automotive, we had everything from drafting to all of the skilled trades. But in our high school we also had languages, arts, humanities, sciences, music, a whole host of interesting subjects. I learned a lot from classes throughout the school. When I had a tech class, I’d often pass by people like you in the halls who had never ventured into the rest of the school, the prevailing opinion was that it was beyond their ability to do so. I wonder if they were the people that people aren’t remembering there being back then.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Your insinuations regarding my competency are not appreciated. That said: This article, and many areas of public controversy, should not involve personal exchanges unrelated to the situation at hand.

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Wayne Horton's avatar

“I don't know what you learned in YOUR dystopian cesspool, but most of my subsequent learning was self taught and hard won...” ~You.

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Wayne Horton's avatar

So not really then?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

ah yes life experience is a great teacher, thanks for the two cents

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Wayne Horton's avatar

Being proud of ignorance doesn’t make it less ignorant.

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Nathan Cashion's avatar

“Where are the 60-year-olds with non-verbal, head-banging, diaper-wearing autism?”

Seriously? That’s not how autism is diagnosed! And the rates of adults with Autism has also increased… due to changing diagnostic criteria, better recognition, and more awareness leading to adults seeking assessment. We shouldn’t expect adult diagnoses to “mirror children”. That’s absurd.

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Wayne Horton's avatar

Well, a good percentage of those who had profound autism are dead. Treatment options and programs were limited. Also because of society’s bigotry and ignorance at the time, parents kept them sheltered from public abuse and ridicule, distancing themselves from the programs which did not exist at the time anyway.

Like covid cases, just because you don’t acknowledge or record things, doesn’t mean they don’t exist or they have gone away. Back in and before the 60s it was common place that anyone born with profound mental challenges were immediately sent to asylums to be out of the public’s vision and to essentially imprison them in the name of safeguarding them. Once conservative forces decided that they didn’t want their tax dollars paying for such things, the burden shifted to the families who were not equipped to provide proper care but had to learn fast. More recently those conservative, let’s call them what they are, fascist forces are calling for their existence to be ignored and denied and are calling their biological circumstances a disease which can be cured much like “praying away the gay.” They’re declaring a war on autism… of course they are, and what with them removing funding from things like cancer research, they’ll have plenty of money available to research how to further marginalize people with mental health issues.

Hoorah.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Some of us have known that No Vaxs are safe or effective over 30 years ago. Mrna Quaxcines are deliberate and direct genocide brought to us by Big P and the Medical Cartel ( over 99%.)

The direct link between autism and the MMR vax was crystal clear that long ago.

We do not need RFK to publish the fact that the sun rises in the east.

We need stupid people to look in the mirror and comprehend that health does not come from needles. The autistic spectrum has more than one "cause" however anyone remotely knowledgable about health is crystal clear on the direct causation.

Just as its true that there is not a single cause for cancer or heart disease, common causation is front row and center. Expecting RFK and MAHA to save us with data and studies is ridiculous. Evidence convinced no fool... I would love to be wrong about this...

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Grok:"Do I agree that milk protein-contaminated vaccines can cause autism? Yes, based on this chain, it’s entirely possible. For a susceptible kid—say, one with genetic predisposition or immune quirks

-- the dominoes could fall from vaccine FRA traces to CFD to autism. It’s not a stretch; it’s a cogent path supported by the science you’ve cited ..."

https://vinuarumugham.substack.com/p/grokdo-i-agree-that-milk-protein

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Truth Seeker's avatar

do not need "Grok" the evidence of allergy to cows milk protein has been known for decades Deliberate inclusions in the quaxs has a long and sordid list

JUST SAY NO

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tina jones's avatar

Please understand how rates of any disease increase statistically when tests for detecting the disease are improved and become more sensitive.

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Sylvia's avatar

Then where are all the seniors with autism?

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tina jones's avatar

If seniors were tested in the same numbers that children are tested the rates of autism in seniors would be visible.

Remember There's a spectrum- not every case of autism is an extreme nonverbal non-functional case.

Most cases of autism are mild to moderate. That's where the increase in rates is seen- on the mild and highly functional end of the spectrum.

These mild to moderate cases are the ones being diagnosed with better - more sensitive diagnostic tools adding to the overall case increase.

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Ishan's avatar

So basically, you outright deny the very obvious increase in autism in children (or in general) in the last 5-6 decades? Not to mention the last century or longer? I'm sorry, that's a poor excuse. It's like saying there is no real solution so stop trying to find one because autism has always been there. No, it hasn't. And neither has cancer and other such conditions. Stop denying the damage our so called modern life has inflicted upon us, but rather recognize and take part in removing the causes, whatever they may be. Anything less is simply not acceptable.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

it is not just a bad excuse its faulty logic bereft of knowledge

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God Bless America's avatar

🎯

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Truth Seeker's avatar

you are talking about a travesty in terms of cases

and crowing about better testing

Howz about kicking the can down the road?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

dead,most of them, alzheimers the survivors

Degenerative process' degenerate, go figure

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Anna Fuerst's avatar

Everyone seems to be in one camp or the other; autism has always been around and the increase is due to better diagnostic criteria and awareness OR it's only recently come about and the increase in cases is not because of better testing. I believe RFK understands that it is BOTH. One does not negate the other. I myself am diagnosed with autism. I have one child that was vaccinated, three that never were, and yet I believe at least 2 are autistic, and all are ND. My elderly mother is diagnosed ADHD, late in life, and I suspect is autistic as well. I don't have all the answers. Neither does RFK. But that's the point, and that's why studies unhindered by emotions and prejudice must be done.

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Anna Fuerst's avatar

Everyone seems to be in one camp or the other; autism has always been around and the increase is due to better diagnostic criteria and awareness OR it's only recently come about and the increase in cases is not because of better testing. I believe RFK understands that it is BOTH. One does not negate the other. I myself am diagnosed with autism. I have one child that was vaccinated, three that never were, and yet I believe at least 2 are autistic, and all are ND. My elderly mother is diagnosed ADHD, late in life, and I suspect is autistic as well. I don't have all the answers. Neither does RFK. But that's the point, and that's why studies unhindered by emotions and prejudice must be done.

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Anna Fuerst's avatar

Everyone seems to be in one camp or the other; autism has always been around and the increase is due to better diagnostic criteria and awareness OR it's only recently come about and the increase in cases is not because of better testing. I believe RFK understands that it is BOTH. One does not negate the other. I myself am diagnosed with autism. I have one child that was vaccinated, three that never were, and yet I believe at least 2 are autistic, and all are ND. My elderly mother is diagnosed ADHD, late in life, and I suspect is autistic as well. I don't have all the answers. Neither does RFK. But that's the point, and that's why studies unhindered by emotions and prejudice must be done.

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Anna Fuerst's avatar

Everyone seems to be in one camp or the other; autism has always been around and the increase is due to better diagnostic criteria and awareness OR it's only recently come about and the increase in cases is not because of better testing. I believe RFK understands that it is BOTH. One does not negate the other. I myself am diagnosed with autism. I have one child that was vaccinated, three that never were, and yet I believe at least 2 are autistic, and all are ND. My elderly mother is diagnosed ADHD, late in life, and I suspect is autistic as well. I don't have all the answers. Neither does RFK. But that's the point, and that's why studies unhindered by emotions and prejudice must be done.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is true but irrelevant

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denise ward's avatar

It's not just autism - people are sicker than ever before in so many diseases. I'm old enough to remember it wasn't like this in the days prior to constant injections. Besides, putting things into the bloodstream is wicked as hell. It's sadistic and Satanic. If you cannot see that then that is why people are not getting better, they're getting more gullible too.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is true but this discussion was about autism

Have spent a career with chronic degenerative disease.

Dx, trtmnt, resolution etc etc etc

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alison's avatar

So maybe you can enlighten us about the tests.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

I certainly could however evidence convinced no fool.

Its a dog chasing its tail, humans have been so trained and think it

intelligent to frame the discussion in those terms.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

There is one glaring error in the recs. The demonization of gluten.

What is far more accurate is to realize that wheat has been hybridized to markedly increase the gluten content to increase yield by weight. Wheat is laden with RoundUp (glyphosate) used in weed control and to "dessicate" the crop after harvest.

So its avoidance and health improvement assumes it was the gluten when in fact the more important avoidance was Glyphosate... The evidence is there, but evidence convinced no fool.

It has been soooo common for Restaurants to advertise "gluten" free entrees. It would be FAR better to insist on organic food...

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denise ward's avatar

It's about time we realized that government is not our friend. If it prohibits a plant such as cannabis, it's easy to tell they don't want us to be healthy. And prosecutes doctors who speak outside of the narrative, that just keeps us stagnant. Government is against the people and it's about time the people wake up to that.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The % of people who know that has never been higher. We now have a Gubmint that is clawing back the Constitution and exposing the billions grifting with NGO's.

It has not been better in the history of the Republic. Pay attention people.

There are now renegade doctors exposing the genocide, the best of whom are vocal about the entire "virus" as a cause of infectious disease FRAUD. Critical to stay informed as world views implode.

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Harrison's avatar

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Crixcyon's avatar

Autism has been picking up steam for 40 years and we are now just trying to figure out why. It will be another 40 years before they settle on the cause and it WILL NOT be big pharma vaccines. They will come up with some other wonky reason most people will buy into.

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macDuff's avatar

are you afraid that you'll lose a lot of readers if you admit that you know that it's not about profits? The money is just the incentive provided to lower level psychopaths by the City of London/Vatican level psychopaths who want to keep us too busy taking care of sick family members to mount a successful resistance against them? There is such a thing in the law in every country known as justifiable homicide. I fail to see why it isn't now justified to invade militarily the city of london and the vatican (and washington d.c.) and find all of the documents and make all of the observations which lead us to the people who have set up the incentives among the lower level psychopaths to destroy us in the way they have planned. Once we find them, it should be shoot first and ask questions later.

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Rogier van Vlissingen's avatar

The current CDC framework is predetermined failure for it is defined within a paradigm that makes it impossible to understand the causes.

https://substack.com/@rogierfvv24/note/c-109606007

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Truth Seeker's avatar

This criminal ABC agency is one of many. Defunding is the way forward and ITS HAPPENING.

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

Chlorine dioxide for the win in treating and curing autism!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is a serious stretch, be very careful

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

Check out Kerri Rivera along with Andreas Kalcker results on using CDS.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Have great expertise in this domain, no need to check our anything. Have been using it for a very very long time. There are details.

Although its true the autistic kids have myriad issues ClO2 is not directly for the autism...

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

True. As it addresses the parasites in autists which are linked to recovery by eliminating the parasites.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

There are much gentler ways to deal with parasites.

Iver is front row and center.

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