Our medicine is designed to supress or manage symptoms—especially pain. When you supress pain you stop listening to the body’s messages (generally to push through and continue to produce in our culture). Of course a CNS painkiller will dull our interroception.
But, MUCH more so, the intention and use of the drug to avoid pain. Along with the many, many ongoing sympathetic inducing triggers of living in our modern life (loud noise, bright flashing lights, fast movement, out of natural light cycles and rhythms, etc).
We are disconnected from our natural world. Medicine is designed to fight and overcome our nature. Sometimes amazing—in saving lives—and VERY often extrmely detrimental in perpetuating an ongoing crisis of disconnection.
ASD is not as simple as Tylenol induced illness. ASD individuals vary greatly in their individual expression (as we all do). The correlation is relevant but not causative. Autism teaches us our own limitations of communication. It forces us to take a different approach. It highlights the impact of diet, toxins, and many other factors that need to be collectively addressed.
It has often been my opinion as a doctor working with these amazing humans that it will be them (and their caregivers) who finally bring the greed aspect of our medicine down. I sure hope so. We have a long way to grow.
Yes, we have a "long way to go" as long as "We" continue to believe that our Western allopathic medical path is The ONLY one. Check out Chinese medicine, which understands, after over 5,000 years, that humans must be in HARMONY with nature, and while you're at it, go to school and get a license to practice, but only after many, many years of study with a qualified Sifu. People are PREJUDICED not to be exploring this very worthwhile and amazingly effective approach to HEALTH and HEALING ;-)
You sound very passionate about this subject. I understand.
Allopathic medicine is only a few hundred years old. Just a baby in comparison to Ayurveda or TCM.
The dogmatic (religious approach) of Western Medicine can be very damaging.
I find western medicine generally to be extremely useful in emergency and life-saving procedures for acute conditions. There are some areas where it shines.
Sadly—or perhaps in part due to—working through a lens of acute care, chronic stress and environmentally caused conditions are not well treated and are more prevalent. (Perhaps the most common)
Importance of neuro training… All these things you say are neuro symptoms and that requires a brain based approach. Vs shutting down the immune system! As you said, pain is a signal… change the inputs to change the output (pain). Neuro training is knowing the inputs to address the outputs.
There are many and people (autistic ones too :)) are individuals. We all have different genetic, microbiome-related, sensitivities, and psycho/social emotional variables impacting us.
One pill/approach solutions to complex variables come from a limited perspective of the complexity involved.
Many forms of toxic chemicals and magnetic exposures have had impact on my whole patient population, but can show more acutely symptomatic in my autistic kids. I would say neurotoxins contribute most to behavioral issues for the majority. I find gluten sensitivity to be linked to this neurotoxicity often and find it's removal from the diet ofter very beneficial.
Thanks Sayer for a deep dive into the many facets of a pharmaceutical used by 52 million people a week! What impact surely this must have as you have revealed is astonishingly horrid.
All drugs have side effects, even simple aspirin, which creates bleeding in the intestines and macular degeneration. I wonder, if everyone checked the side effects and ingredients, if thinking people would take most pharmaceutical drugs?
for 64 years my focus has been on health, which is created as Hippocrates taught through the right foods and lifestyle. The mouth is designed for the ingestion of natural unprocessed food, whose nutrients will enter through osmosis into the bloodstream. The bloodstream will carry the nutrients throughout the entire body nourishing the organs, glands and cells providing energy and good health. The bloodstream was not designed to carry alcohol, drugs, processed food, tobacco, or vaccines. The only item that was to be in the bloodstream were nutrients from species-specific food. The right lifestyle consists of getting fresh air, sunshine, pure water, rest, hard work, movement, and regular daily eliminations. The healthy people i studied followed this lifestyle. Unfortunately, in this day and age, our soil is not pristine and foods are primarily processed. In order to be healthy, one has to really make an effort to find nourishing food and do the simple things, which create health. Illness always has a cause and it is important to find out what you are doing wrong to cause a problem...and solve it by eliminating the cause. It works! I got rid of arthritis, cancer, colds, coughs, sore throats, obesity by discovering what I was doing wrong.
You have developed a natural form of 'common sense' which is lacking in America now a 'daze'. Food is your medicine and medicine your food. Not too complicated.
I do like to 'pay it forward' for all the gifts, I have been given and provide a free newsletter Journey to Wellness providing information for those who are interested. .barbaracharis.substack.com
I helped a friend sort through some preliminary legal work a few years ago. I advised her that should her case go to trial, she should instruct her legal team to pose the question as to what medications, specifically Tylenol, the jurors might be taking. I think it’s a legitimate question these days. I’ve had to literally ask judges if they were on anything since I live in a state where far too many folks are high on something or another.
Seeing comments here on pain and autism are interesting. The body uses many methods to allay pain, however its causes can be multitudinous. Certainly when an epidemic occurs of autism there seems to be a breaking out point where it manifests and a clue. What changed, what happened differently, why so sudden and so greatly? Is it mercury, Tylenol, EMRP (electromagnetic radiation pollution), aluminum, and is this manifesting the brain dysfunction in elderly? Do we look for the cause, or do we look to alleviate and repair the damage, or hopefully all at the same time?
Biologically we know it is some combination of metabolic dysfunction, oxidative stress, and chronic inflammation. Can we behaviorally affect the outcome by nutrition, meditation and other elements? Yes, that all helps as well as alternative medicinal therapeutics and getting out in Nature, and using any other methods that help our behavior and health. Is there a cause environmentally that can be changed in some way to end the expansion and growth? That is the key.
Sayer is providing windows and doorways to approach an answer to the last question.
Autism aside, how does acetaminophen during pregnancy affect maternal-infant bonding and the mother's relationship to her husband? What does acetaminophen do to families?
It creates misunderstandings and hardening of the behaviour between people.
Additionally. Endocrine disruptors cause similar trouble in families. And people tend to be exposed to more of them when they get into relationships. Suddenly the man and the woman are exposed to each others and their childrens endocrine disruptors from perfume, shampoo, clothes and so forth.
Wow--so interesting and eye-opening. As I learn more about what so many seemingly benign pharmaceuticals are doing to our health, it makes me realize that this is a coordinated long-game to try to snuff out the things that make us so beautifully human. I've always believed that joy is one of our biggest spiritual super-powers.
Unfortunately I miss t he referred to Swedish study, t hat got it all wrong. Would you please give me the details and I will check up closely with the authorities in question.
The situation is the same over here, at least 3/4 of the population munch Alvedon regularly....like myself, but now quit.
Our medicine is designed to supress or manage symptoms—especially pain. When you supress pain you stop listening to the body’s messages (generally to push through and continue to produce in our culture). Of course a CNS painkiller will dull our interroception.
But, MUCH more so, the intention and use of the drug to avoid pain. Along with the many, many ongoing sympathetic inducing triggers of living in our modern life (loud noise, bright flashing lights, fast movement, out of natural light cycles and rhythms, etc).
We are disconnected from our natural world. Medicine is designed to fight and overcome our nature. Sometimes amazing—in saving lives—and VERY often extrmely detrimental in perpetuating an ongoing crisis of disconnection.
ASD is not as simple as Tylenol induced illness. ASD individuals vary greatly in their individual expression (as we all do). The correlation is relevant but not causative. Autism teaches us our own limitations of communication. It forces us to take a different approach. It highlights the impact of diet, toxins, and many other factors that need to be collectively addressed.
It has often been my opinion as a doctor working with these amazing humans that it will be them (and their caregivers) who finally bring the greed aspect of our medicine down. I sure hope so. We have a long way to grow.
Yes, we have a "long way to go" as long as "We" continue to believe that our Western allopathic medical path is The ONLY one. Check out Chinese medicine, which understands, after over 5,000 years, that humans must be in HARMONY with nature, and while you're at it, go to school and get a license to practice, but only after many, many years of study with a qualified Sifu. People are PREJUDICED not to be exploring this very worthwhile and amazingly effective approach to HEALTH and HEALING ;-)
You sound very passionate about this subject. I understand.
Allopathic medicine is only a few hundred years old. Just a baby in comparison to Ayurveda or TCM.
The dogmatic (religious approach) of Western Medicine can be very damaging.
I find western medicine generally to be extremely useful in emergency and life-saving procedures for acute conditions. There are some areas where it shines.
Sadly—or perhaps in part due to—working through a lens of acute care, chronic stress and environmentally caused conditions are not well treated and are more prevalent. (Perhaps the most common)
Importance of neuro training… All these things you say are neuro symptoms and that requires a brain based approach. Vs shutting down the immune system! As you said, pain is a signal… change the inputs to change the output (pain). Neuro training is knowing the inputs to address the outputs.
Curious about what you mean by "our medicine"?
'our medicine' = Big Pharma poison
Thanks for the clarification.
I was referring to Allopathic medicine. I am a Naturopathic doctor so not meant inclusively.
PHARMA IS NOT "MY MEDICINE!!!"
There are many and people (autistic ones too :)) are individuals. We all have different genetic, microbiome-related, sensitivities, and psycho/social emotional variables impacting us.
One pill/approach solutions to complex variables come from a limited perspective of the complexity involved.
Many forms of toxic chemicals and magnetic exposures have had impact on my whole patient population, but can show more acutely symptomatic in my autistic kids. I would say neurotoxins contribute most to behavioral issues for the majority. I find gluten sensitivity to be linked to this neurotoxicity often and find it's removal from the diet ofter very beneficial.
Thanks Sayer for a deep dive into the many facets of a pharmaceutical used by 52 million people a week! What impact surely this must have as you have revealed is astonishingly horrid.
All drugs have side effects, even simple aspirin, which creates bleeding in the intestines and macular degeneration. I wonder, if everyone checked the side effects and ingredients, if thinking people would take most pharmaceutical drugs?
for 64 years my focus has been on health, which is created as Hippocrates taught through the right foods and lifestyle. The mouth is designed for the ingestion of natural unprocessed food, whose nutrients will enter through osmosis into the bloodstream. The bloodstream will carry the nutrients throughout the entire body nourishing the organs, glands and cells providing energy and good health. The bloodstream was not designed to carry alcohol, drugs, processed food, tobacco, or vaccines. The only item that was to be in the bloodstream were nutrients from species-specific food. The right lifestyle consists of getting fresh air, sunshine, pure water, rest, hard work, movement, and regular daily eliminations. The healthy people i studied followed this lifestyle. Unfortunately, in this day and age, our soil is not pristine and foods are primarily processed. In order to be healthy, one has to really make an effort to find nourishing food and do the simple things, which create health. Illness always has a cause and it is important to find out what you are doing wrong to cause a problem...and solve it by eliminating the cause. It works! I got rid of arthritis, cancer, colds, coughs, sore throats, obesity by discovering what I was doing wrong.
You have developed a natural form of 'common sense' which is lacking in America now a 'daze'. Food is your medicine and medicine your food. Not too complicated.
I do like to 'pay it forward' for all the gifts, I have been given and provide a free newsletter Journey to Wellness providing information for those who are interested. .barbaracharis.substack.com
I helped a friend sort through some preliminary legal work a few years ago. I advised her that should her case go to trial, she should instruct her legal team to pose the question as to what medications, specifically Tylenol, the jurors might be taking. I think it’s a legitimate question these days. I’ve had to literally ask judges if they were on anything since I live in a state where far too many folks are high on something or another.
Seeing comments here on pain and autism are interesting. The body uses many methods to allay pain, however its causes can be multitudinous. Certainly when an epidemic occurs of autism there seems to be a breaking out point where it manifests and a clue. What changed, what happened differently, why so sudden and so greatly? Is it mercury, Tylenol, EMRP (electromagnetic radiation pollution), aluminum, and is this manifesting the brain dysfunction in elderly? Do we look for the cause, or do we look to alleviate and repair the damage, or hopefully all at the same time?
Biologically we know it is some combination of metabolic dysfunction, oxidative stress, and chronic inflammation. Can we behaviorally affect the outcome by nutrition, meditation and other elements? Yes, that all helps as well as alternative medicinal therapeutics and getting out in Nature, and using any other methods that help our behavior and health. Is there a cause environmentally that can be changed in some way to end the expansion and growth? That is the key.
Sayer is providing windows and doorways to approach an answer to the last question.
I'd like to know if the blunted empathy wears off after the Tylenol is out of you system?
I sure a healthy person can detox it out BUT not via drugs.
thanks for sharing these studies. Yikes!
Autism aside, how does acetaminophen during pregnancy affect maternal-infant bonding and the mother's relationship to her husband? What does acetaminophen do to families?
It creates misunderstandings and hardening of the behaviour between people.
Additionally. Endocrine disruptors cause similar trouble in families. And people tend to be exposed to more of them when they get into relationships. Suddenly the man and the woman are exposed to each others and their childrens endocrine disruptors from perfume, shampoo, clothes and so forth.
It is not even just acetaminophen, it is medication in general. See this: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200108-the-medications-that-change-who-we-are
Thankfully I was taught to bear the pain as its an indicator.
Wow--so interesting and eye-opening. As I learn more about what so many seemingly benign pharmaceuticals are doing to our health, it makes me realize that this is a coordinated long-game to try to snuff out the things that make us so beautifully human. I've always believed that joy is one of our biggest spiritual super-powers.
GREAT reporting. So important. Thank you!
I don't question this narrative. I question Tylenol being a 'scapegoat' for what 'really' causes 'most' of the autism. 'It's the vaccines, stupid'.
Wow
Unfortunately I miss t he referred to Swedish study, t hat got it all wrong. Would you please give me the details and I will check up closely with the authorities in question.
The situation is the same over here, at least 3/4 of the population munch Alvedon regularly....like myself, but now quit.
What about the opposite of being over empathetic?
Take the Mom’s with liberal bleeding heart’s saying I took with my first child, not my second, and my second is autistic not my first.
I’m not sure about Tylenol and empathy but I do know SSRIs are definitely responsible for blunting emotions.