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John Wright's avatar

Human greed has been a problem that has plagued us for eternity. We, as a society, as the human race, need to pause and consider how much better life would be if we worked together to help each other instead of profiting off each other.

Melanie Brown's avatar

Yes, we need a new system…a decentralized system. All of our systems have been designed to centralize power in the hands of a few to profit off the masses. Whether it is the Medical, food industry, banking, education, etc etc They all need to be decentralized. I think it will happen.?everyone is waking up to this reality thanks to people like Sayer Ji.

Living Well Locally's avatar

Food and medicine can be decentralized, even localized. Place-based healing can be made real. We the consumers can make it happen.

https://livingwelllocally.substack.com/p/the-wellness-economy

John Wright's avatar

Yes! Let's hope some progress can be made.

Abheda's avatar

Well, evidence shows that it was mainly the Rockefellers who did the bulk of the heavy work in demonizing natural medicines and replacing them not only with modified substances, but ones that purposely worked to suppress symptoms (the body's detox mechanisms!), while totally neglecting the actual underlying cause(s) of the disease.

They are one of just a few families - literally, fewer people than in my high school class - who own over 99% of the world's wealth.

And one of the lies they tell us is that the things THEY do - war, massive propaganda, keeping people sick, genociding whole societies so they can take over the natural resources -- the things THEY do, they get us to think are "HUMAN NATURE."

This is on purpose. "It's OUR fault."

No it's not.... it's theirs. Plain and simple. Absolutely. NOT human nature.

John Wright's avatar

Not to defend the Rockefellers but humans have been greedy for the entirety of recorded history. But you make an excellent point, it's only a very small minority of humans.

Perhaps worthy of repeating the phrase: "power corrupts"

blah's avatar

It takes money dude

Abheda's avatar

Ay, there's the rub. And who knows whether that 99+% of the world's wealth that's in the hands of a few arch-criminals can or will ever be re-distributed. It'll take a sea change. Could happen; though it seems it'd have to be something we currently consider "miraculous."

salience's avatar

It's not greed per se, and not all societies have been so plagued. The problem today is not greed but Capitalism. Now before you<snort> and <guffaw>, have a read about it:

Excerpt from Joel Kovel's The Enemy of Nature:

The End of Capitalism or the End of the World?

https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/its-been-twenty-years

John Wright's avatar

I disagree. Capitalism is an excellent system... if those implementing it aren't greedy and those using it aren't ignorant.

Fartsy's avatar

John, you have it backwards. Socialism IS the system that works. We already have elements of it in our system. People are greedy; enough so that the rich have had their lackeys in govt legislate an upwards transfer of wealth while minimizing their tax obligation, placing the burden on the rest of us. Impossible to miss, particularly if you’re 40 or over.

Socialism, as some have described, is capitalism with guardrails.

Abheda's avatar

Yes, and if it didn't work, it would NOT be so universally demonized [by the usual propagandists].

Beth's avatar

You don't live in Canada do you? If not, pay attention to the political climate in British Columbia, it's a socialist-communist province getting worse by the day.

John Wright's avatar

Clearly you haven't read Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics". And you seem to be overlooking the economics of the world and which systems have brought about the highest standards of living to the greatest number of people.

Yes, our system is transferring wealth to the wealthy. That's a flaw in fiat currency (and inflation - aka devaluation of currency), not in a flaw in capitalism.

Fartsy's avatar

Our system transfers wealth to the wealthy because the wealthy have engineered the system to be that way. At this point, the corruption is cartoonish in its excess, stupidity, and overt gluttony. The top 1% now control just under 32% of U.S. wealth, almost the same as the bottom 90% . And it ain’t because of fiat currencies and inflation.

John Wright's avatar

Fiat currencies and inflation are tools they use to accomplish this wealth transfer and concentration.

Steveo's avatar

So then, in a modern society, current society, it's a terrible system.

John Wright's avatar

When there isn't a better system (socialism is *far* worse than capitalism), the clear option is to fix the one you are having problems with.

Steveo's avatar

Except the government is unfixable, and they are the controlled allowing the current system.

salience's avatar

You didn't read the evidence.

John Wright's avatar

Peter Webster's substack article? I quickly read it after replying and I completely disagree with the article.

Tom's avatar

Back in the mid-1800s (whose history has been changed by these people), natural doctors used to call the Modern Medicine Doctors "Quacks" due to their using Mercury, Quicksilver. Of course, that was changed 180 degrees to call real healers Quacks. We live in Opposite World.

When I got out of the ICU, I had given the "expert" my list of supplements I took. The instructions came back to not use any of them, and to use the list of expensive drugs that they said I would die if I didn't use. But I quit those right away, and partially with the aid of Regeneration by Sayer Ji, am doing just fine.

Henry Pietkiewicz's avatar

In this context I would encourage reading ‘A Divided Legacy’ by Harris Coulter, which documents the historical demise of Natural Medicine in the US in general - and Homoeopathy in particular, from the 19th to the early 20th Century.

Throughout that period Allopathic doctors routinely complained to their Medical Boards about the difficulty of making an adequate living, when compared mainly to Homeopaths.

What they failed to appreciate was that patients were simply exercising a preference because Homeopathic treatment was more successful at treating their ailments.

The demise of Natural Medicine began in earnest in the early 20th Century when Rockefeller embraced pharmaceutical production as a new way to use the oil his companies were extracting, the Flexner Report skewed medical education towards ‘scientific’ medicine, and the American Medical Association was established to further the financial interests of its members by exploiting this new monopoly.

However we should stay hopeful. As with any philosophical or practical system based on fundamental error, the current system of medicine carries the seeds of its own destruction.

The evidence of that ‘error’ is gradually unfolding around us through the recognised decline in standards of real Health, in a world that currently largely relies on a philosophical and pharmaceutical approach which treats symptoms rather than causes.

Until that changes we will continue to decline.

SteveDoc22's avatar

Homeopathic Medicine is a joke, a fraud. Any chemist will tell you that massive dilution of a chemical does not make it stronger.

Henry Pietkiewicz's avatar

Which begs the question, how has Homeopathy survived intact since the early 19th century, why 200 million people worldwide use it on a regular basis, and why there are, as one example, 340,000 registered Homeopaths in India alone.

You have to admit that is quite some delusion.

Abheda's avatar

Because it's not strength that matters. It's way more subtle than current "scientists" are taught to be aware of.

Sheila Wise's avatar

I have been refused care and been kicked out of doctors offices for refusing their medications and procedures that I felt were bad for me. Recently, it was my new cardiologist, a nurse practitioner, who banned me from coming back because I refused tests that I already had and told myself I would never do again.

Tom's avatar

Sheila, I would be interested to know the size of your location (i.e. city, small town, rural) to know what alternatives you have, for the nurse to get away with that. I have been at odds with mine, but the area is too small for them to do something like that to me. A friend said she had been fired earlier in her life as well for that kind of attitude. I have refused several expensive tests designed for a "uhoh, looks like you need an implant" gateway. The new cardiologists are so brainwashed, I had one with all the jargon and wrote a very unkind report on my comments that she may not have known I would see. I complained (and I was right, she was wrong). She has moved on. As did the next one that I refused a big test to. I really don't need these people, They have never given me constructive advice.

That is another thing...you can't talk to these people in private, every word is available to the entire planet immediately after the visit is memorialized by AI listening in.

Sheila Wise's avatar

I found out how fast she put negative comments about me on a note to my doctor. My doctor told me about not being allowed back. I told her good, I would never go back there again even if I was allowed.

I live in a small township but the doctor was in a little bigger town.

My doctor, who I really liked, ended up quitting because she got fed up with the whole institutional crap.

I switched to another smaller township for a new doctor, with an upcoming "new patient" appointment. Mixed feelings on that!

Abheda's avatar

I stopped going to doctors after realizing that, of the numerous conditions I had as a young adult when I finally got a job with medical "benefits," EVERY SINGLE ONE was treated the same way: Run a bunch of expensive tests (requiring time-consuming visits to various specialists.) Tests come back negative. Doctor tells me it's __________ (insert jargon here: fibromyalgia, psoriasis, irritable bowel, etc). "We don't know what caused it, and we don't know how to fix it; but here are some drugs you can take for the rest of your life to relieve the symptoms." That was the early 80's. I'm not in the best of health, but am fairly convinced that I'd be a LOT worse off if I'd continued going to doctors.

Tom's avatar

Try the Midwestern Doctor site on DMSO, covers a lot of this sort of thing, cheap easy fix covered up by the FDA (for some reason).

Abheda's avatar

Thanks, I did get some DMSO and only need to start using it more regularly (so far, only for acute short term things.) I'll go do that now!

Sheila Wise's avatar

I completely agree. "Do No Harm" means nothing to them.

Abheda's avatar

Oh, this is funny. It’s about 2 hours since I posted the above, which has always been my opinion of how the joke that’s called Medicine works: TEST > FIND NOTHING > PRESCRIBE SYMPTOM-RELIEVING FOREVER DRUGS.

So a few minutes ago, I came across the word “idiopathic,” and googled to see what it means. And it looks like it’s fancier words for what I just described: THEY make it sound like there are only a few such diseases, but in my experience, EVERY ONE follows this same formula.

I’ll quote the Google AI answer in just a minute. But before that: I once read someone describing his adventures in looking up each and every disease he could think of; and though the wording varied a bit, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. said essentially: “Doctors don’t know the cause of ________.” The verbiage varies, but the message is exactly the same. So basically, NOTHING you see a doctor about will result in healing the cause, because they’re taught that we don’t KNOW what the cause is. Literally, he listed many DOZENS of such quotations, about different diseases. So the entry below is splitting hairs, acting as though only SOME diseases are idiopathic, whereas in fact, current ‘medicine’ lumps ALL diseases under the “we don’t know what causes it” clause.

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So without further ado, here’s Google on “IDIOPATHIC”

“Idiopathic refers to a disease or condition that arises spontaneously with an unknown cause or mechanism. It signifies a primary condition lacking an obvious origin, often diagnosed by ruling out other possibilities. Symptoms are diverse depending on the specific condition, and prognosis and treatments vary, >focusing on managing symptoms rather than curing an underlying cause. <

Key Aspects of Idiopathic Conditions:

Definition & Etymology: The term means "one's own disease" or "personal suffering," originating from the Greek idios (one's own [=”it’s your fault”]) and patheia (suffering). It indicates a condition arising spontaneously, without a recognizable trigger, often termed primary.

Symptoms: Symptoms are entirely dependent on the specific disorder, as "idiopathic" only describes the cause, not the symptoms themselves. Common examples include:

Chronic, progressive lung scarring causing shortness of breath.

Headaches and vision problems.

Low platelet count leading to bleeding and purple spots.

Diagnosis: Diagnosis is often made by exclusion, where clinicians rule out all known causes for the symptoms. [And there are NEVER any “known causes;” so that’s just a lie]

Prognosis & Treatment: Because the cause is unknown, treatment is usually targeted at »>managing symptoms,«< reducing progression, and improving quality of life, *rather than curative.*

Risk Factors: By definition, specific causes are not known, so risk factors are hard to define.

Living with an idiopathic condition can be frustrating and isolating, often leading to a long, complex diagnostic journey.

Tom's avatar

Good luck! My old NP moved on, the replacement was actually my neighbor and more experienced. She started out by acknowledging my difference in attitude towards all this, and didn't give me any problems. Just going with the diuretics in case I overdo things, but have a lot of supplements I cycle thru like COQ10, taurine, L-Carnitine, reseveratrol. L-Arginine are my big ones, and lots of good magnesium. D3/K2, C, Hawthorne now, Fish Oil. Not the whole list :) But interestingly, none of them have side effects.

Sheila Wise's avatar

I too like to rely on a good, clean diet and supplements, due to the fact I cannot eat a lot.

I started using Hibiscus for high blood pressure. It's easy, pleasant, and has no side effects. I only use one BP medication, as opposed to the 3-4 they want me to take. When I can, I will be rid of that one medication I still take.

Abheda's avatar

I took hawthorn for a while; I thought I had congestive heart failure, and had read that it's treated in Europe with hawthorne and, I think, CoQ10. But I finally found out it's just a diuretic, so I stopped. It's hard enough to stay hydrated! Organ meats (in capsule form, for squeamish me) were what stopped the lung congestion that made me suspect CHF.

Tom's avatar

That's interesting. CHF causes fluid retention, Lasix is the one pill I keep on hand, its a diuretic in case it seems that I am overdoing things. It would be nice to just use hawthorne for that instead of something from big pharma, albeit not as cheap as BP's lasix. I have good multis, including shilajit and some with fulvics.

I have organic organ meats in the freezer and pills (Standard Process cardio plus is full of them) and other brands, but forget to take regularly. Thanks for the reminder.

Not neurotic, just not fully healed yet, might as well try everything since I can afford to. Problem is, not sure what is the best to scale down to, lol.

Brenon Duff's avatar

Good point Tom about who the quacks are. I'm glad you got better without the quacks. I have too.

Andrew Devlin's avatar

We’ve also lost a lot due to the replacement of the hometown doctor with hospitalists. I remember Dr. Juffy coming out to our house on his way home to treat one of us because mom didn’t drive. Mom had many kids, eventually 14, and Dr. Juffy would tend to the sick kid and check out a few others while there.

Today, the hospitalists have allegiance first and foremost to their employers and don’t dare rely upon their own knowledge when it conflicts!

Bring back the Doctor Juffy’s!

Sheila Wise's avatar

My parents and grandparents didn't believe in going to the doctor unless you were bleeding or broken. Unfortunately, us kids were in and out of the emergency often! 😅

Andrew Devlin's avatar

Back then, though, your ER doctor was probably focused on the patient, not the hospital’s bank account.

Sheila Wise's avatar

Exactly! I don't remember my parents ever getting an outrageous medical bill.

In the early eighties my physician purchased a book called "The German Commissions E," which contains all the research the Germans have done on medicinal healing. I had told him I was going to buy it when it came out. The next time I saw him, he had gotten one of the first copies (benefits of being a doctor) and it was signed by the Commission. I was jealous of the fact he got a signed copy, and so quickly, but also thankful he cared enough to go to the effort.

AMV's avatar

And natural medicine still works, it’s just not profitable by Big Pharma. That’s explains everything!

Abheda's avatar

That's why the propaganda any more doesn't come out as quite so demonizing of unpatentable medicines - they used to blatantly scream that they were DANGEROUS!!! Now what they say is, "There is no evidence that ABC works." That SOUNDS like they're saying it's useless. But what they actually mean is, "We refuse to spend the money to test something we know we can't make a huge profit from." Hence, no "proof." Crafty buggers...

AMV's avatar

Ah, they are much worse than crafty. But people need to take their health into their own hands and just say no. Do their own research. But they’re captured by propaganda!

Mia Roberts's avatar

Remarkable work, Mother Earth is all around us…if we let her…

Heather's avatar

My Dad qualified as a pharmacist before the transition. He made up medicines using natural substances including plants. We learnt many natural cures like softened bar soap and sugar as a drawing agent. Packing an ulcer on your skin with sugar. Vitamin C for colds and flu. And using high strength vitamin B12 to cure shingles. He understood deficiency as the cause as did doctors practicing in the 1950's. I thankfully followed the Buhner protocol for Lyme disease as a result, instead of destroying my gut microbiome and health with antibiotics I balanced my immune system and went into remission.

Fred's avatar

The sugar thing sounds crazy, but widely used on pressure sores in the past, often followed by milk of magnesia as a drying agent. Try sugar on an oral canker sore; near instant relief of pain.

Heather's avatar

Thanks I'll remember that! The sugar healed three ulcers on my legs which I developed with covid. Took about a week replacing the sugar every day and not even a mark now where they were.

Abheda's avatar

WOW!!! Buhner protocol for Lyme, and + strength B12 for shingles?!? Making a note of THOSE [for friends]! Thanks so much for the info.

Mark Luersen's avatar

Turpentine was also in the original Merck for parasites, and now it is being advised against on so many fronts. I even recently received a warning email from Amazon for a turpentine purchase I made more than a year ago!

Carolyn's avatar

Thank you Sayer. Happy Easter Blessings

Deborah's avatar

This is a great summary of this travesty against Humanity, Nature and our ability to be truly healthy and FREE. I learned much of this years ago as a medical researcher, who saw firsthand how the conventional system lies and fails us all. GreenMedInfo has been a large part of my awakening to the miracle of Natural Medicine. I use the word "miracle" because the conventional system denies miracles in order to pull us into accepting their synthetics. Yet, Nature is always here, ready to serve our needs. I am deeply grateful for GreenMedInfo and all your work to show us the way back to a life worth living, not in disease but in vibrant health. Namaste

Curmudgeon's avatar

Moving forward, I would love to see ALL grant research money coming out of RFK's department be directed towards research on out-of-patent drugs being repurposed. Ivermectin and covid being one example. Let the Bourla's of the world pay 100% of their own research.

Reneé Davis's avatar

Very well said 👏🏻 I’ve been pharmaceutical-free since 2007 and using food as medicine (including medicinal herbs) instead of poisoning myself with chemicals. I wish every single person understood that following the $$$ is the only way to get to the truth. Excellent article!

Freedom Fox's avatar

Thank you. Useful. Yes.

Map link is password protected, fyi others who may have been interested. Guess I'm stuck with lo-res.

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~260602~5522896:Medicinal-plant-map-of-the-United-S

Allen's avatar

This is absolutely correct and important for folks to recognize. The use of language to "normalize" this diabolical medical system has run parallel with the system's elimination of all other healing modalities.

Consider the example of how allopaths prescribed frequent and large dosages of calomel, a white, tasteless mineral compound of mercurous chloride that was one of the most popular and controversial medicines of the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries. They also used, with equal frequency, the so-called “heroic” bleeding technique.

By contrast, the Eclectic movement relied largely upon plant-based, natural treatments and emphasized patient-centered, holistic care.

The natural treatment concepts adopted by the Ecletics were antithetical to the well-funded allopathic industry, which widely viewed high doses of calomel as a "cure-all," when it was actually a toxic form of mercury. This standard practice of high dosages of calomel led to severe mercury poisoning. It caused patients to lose teeth, to vomit, to undergo extreme cramping, and to have bloody diarrhea. In fact, for some the “modern” mercury treatment resulted in permanent facial deformities and even death. However, allopathic doctors took these symptoms as a sign that the calomel was “working”—was purging the system of the disease.

Sound familiar? Well "follow the science" right?

“From time immemorial, man has looked for a savior; when not looking for a savior, he is looking for a cure. He believes in paternalism. He is looking to get something for nothing, not knowing that the highest price we ever pay for anything is to have it given to us. Instead of accepting salvation, it is better to deserve it. Instead of buying, begging, or stealing a cure, it is better to stop building disease. Disease is of man’s own building, and one worse thing than the stupidity of buying a cure is to remain so ignorant as to believe in cures.”

— John H. Tilden, MD, Toxemia Explained: The True Interpretation of the Cause of Disease (1926)

John's avatar

What a great quote!

What he's saying, essentially, is that "man" rarely leaves the suckling stage, "something for nothing."

It appears to me that we would all be better off if we all grew up, learned to take responsibility for ourselves, and quit seeking the quick or magic cure but that'll probably happen in the very distant future (if ever) given that 2,000 years ago Lucian of Samosata wrote about Alexander of Abonoteichos, the quack who became rich and famous with his frauds, medical and otherwise.

Short, entertaining read,

https://lucianofsamosata.info/wiki/doku.php?id=home:texts_and_library:essays:alexander

J B's avatar

The cannabis plant that is sold now has changed dramatically with the addition of extreme amounts of fertilizer and cross breeding.

The pain relief and help with inflammation is still present, however the psycho active effects are very intense and addiction is certainly legitimate now. I have worked in the medical and recreational cannabis industry for more than 10 years. I don't smoke it at all anymore but still find use in topicals and believe edibles can also have utility in very low dosage.

When I quit several months ago it was very intense withdrawals - night sweats, severe anxiety etc.

So yes cannabis can have healing properties but no most modern recreational cannabis has been breeded beyond recognition and the strength is on the level of cocaine - especially the concentrates such as "live rosin, distallate etc"

Proceed with caution if you don't have access to lower thc strains.

Topicals particularly do not cross the blood brain barrier so there are no psycho active effects.

Fred's avatar

“Monacolin K is a compound found in red yeast rice that is chemically identical to the prescription cholesterol-lowering drug lovastatin. It is known for its ability to lower total cholesterol and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels.” What they don’t tell you is that the USA (and more recently the EU) limit the active component to 3% instead of the effective 10%. Biden’s FDA also reduced the amount of beneficial glycolic acids allowable in skin care products. Dermatologist lobbyists perhaps?

Fred's avatar
Apr 11Edited

BTW, not a fan of RYR or statins. The effects are probably from the antiinflammatory effect, not from lipid lowering. Address the root causes of inflammation. A very low carb (ketogenic) diet is one way.

Robin Green | Find Clarity's avatar

This is where things get uncomfortable—but also important to look at.

When an industry is built around profit, it inevitably shapes what gets studied, promoted, and legitimized. That’s not conspiracy—that’s incentive structure.

I see the same thing happening with Chinese medicine—fragments being repackaged and sold, while the integrity of the system itself gets diluted.

Over time, people forget what the original system actually was.