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Wayne's avatar

The American Heart Association, American Cancer Society and pretty much all of the nonprofits that claim to be pushing for the eradication of said disease, are corrupt. The incidence of all these “highly studied “ diseases have increased significantly despite BILLIONS of dollars donated to these organizations. Why??? Because curing a disease doesn’t make money. Take control of your own health…don’t rely on the system that benefits from your suffering.

Melissa S's avatar

re: "If the AHA wishes to reclaim credibility......."

The first step to reclaiming credibility is to stop receiving money from pharmaceutical companies. Until then there can not be any trust. It is always a matter of following the money.

Tara's avatar

Remember when vitamin C was bad ? Mercola has/had many melatonin articles. Perhaps because it cures a few types of cancer, plus other health benefits, vilified!!!

Carolyn's avatar

Excellent, thanks Sayer

jay's avatar

does anybody know of any peer reviewed controlled experiments which prove the existence of any pathogenic virus? I've been looking and haven't been able to find even one. If you know of one, please post a link to it? Or give enough info on it to find it?

Dr. Chris's avatar

the signal in this study is in all likelihood a result of *having chronic insomnia*, not any intervention (melatonin or other sleep aids); insomnia does a lot of bad stuff to health; I am always impressed at how poorly conducted medical research is, often when it is non-lab based on clinical observation and/or records

sharon's avatar

Dr. Chris ,that is what Sayer is saying in his article .

richard noakes's avatar

"Nothing personal" Does this "smell" like the WEF - World Economic Forum - participation?

Let us presuppose that what has passed is not the work of any one person, but the combined works of many, because the Covid pandemic has taken years to set up and get the involved parties working together towards a common goal which was Covid, this time around, but probably a Bird Flu Pandemic next time around.

It seems to me that the World Economic Forum brought together the millionaires and they set up the World Health Organisation to take their invested money and increase its value by at least $35 for each $1 invested - by injecting the vaccine poisons into all of us Human Rubbish, with the intention of exterminating us, while making the millionaires even richer - and the scheme has so far, worked remarkably well.

The WHO offers donors a 3,400% return on investment, openly promoting “at least $35 for every $1 invested.”

Bill Gates GAVI offers $20 for each $1 invested.

WHO’s Directing Global Health Policy?”

Published by the Australian Medical Professionals’ Society (AMPS), June 2025

Purpose of the Report

This independent investigation by AMPS critically examines the World Health Organization’s (WHO) funding mechanisms, focusing on the top-100 non-country donors to the WHO’s voluntary contributions for specified purposes in 2022–2023. The report aims to evaluate whether these funding arrangements compromise the WHO’s independence, especially given its central role in new global health treaties such as:

The 2024 Amendments to the International Health Regulations (IHR).

The WHO Pandemic Treaty/Agreement.

So if each investor invests $100 for your free vaccine shot, they are paid "at least" $3,500 back, after your free vaccine injection, multiplied by the numbers of free vaccine shots, they invested in, from the outset. Money for Jam - but if nobody gets a vaccine, then the investors don't make any money, or get anything paid back, do they - so how to get the maximum number of vaccinations made, to make their original investments, pay out handsomely?

With Bill Gates "apparently" having funded or financed China to provide them with the finances to create biological weapons to be used against America and the West, it is entirely possible that his empire might crumble and the whole rotten scheme, above, become revealed and those in it of the WEF and WHO who played their parts, which have got us Human Rubbish to here.

Let us hope so, but perhaps it is the WEF movers and shakers behind the scenes, who we don't ever see, who are the real problem here, but when they die, their Spirits go to HELL for their final deserved accounting.

Have you been reading about the Asteroid or Space Ship the size of Manhattan which is flying through space at incredible speeds from another galaxy and is expect to pass us - be interesting if it is coming here - which begs the question, everyone now Covid vaccinated is "Genetically Modified" and Legally "TransHumans" so what value could they have to this "object" if it actually is coming here - if it passes by, no problem - let's hope it does.

sharon's avatar

Richard , it's not just the covid vaccine ,that kills , it in implants ,devices ,all vaccines , mesh , the hospitals with their forced protocols, what Big pHARMA is doing is unconscionable ! It is a satanic nefarious cabal for profit . Please look on Net Flix for "the bleeding edge" , and see what is going in the big pHARMa cabal .

richard noakes's avatar

What follows validates my "Free Salt Water Cure" and why it works so effectively, also for Omicron: ........ "It’s a lot easier to spread a virus that replicates in the upper throat".

Former CDC Director States that the COVID-19 Pandemic Was a Self-Spreading Nanoparticles Vaccine

HHS, FDA and CDC insiders are finally coming forward with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth regarding all things COVID-19. TRUTH WINS.

Karen Kingston

Nov 7

October 6, 2025: HHS, FDA and CDC insiders are finally coming forward with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth regarding all things COVID-19.

The SARS-2 Virus Was a ‘Global Vaccination Program’

In a jaw-dropping interview with Dana Parish from Third Opinion, former CDC Director under the 1st Trump Administration, Dr. Robert Redfield, openly expresses his expert opinion that the entire COVID-19 program was designed to make, “a self-spreading, aerosolized respiratory transmitted vaccine.”

The “COVID-19 self-spreading vaccine program,” is comprised of all the man-made mRNA nanoparticle virus-vaccines that can be spread via aerosol attack, food or surface contamination and injection, as was described in detail in EcoHealth Alliance’s 2018 DEFUSE pitch to DARPA.

COVID-19 is Aerosolized Self-Spreading mRNA Nanoparticles

In the 2023 film Final Days, I explain in great detail how COVID was aerosolized mRNA nanoparticle technology per the EcoHealth Pitch and lectures given buy Professor James Giordano.

But don’t take my word for it, listen to words of former CDC Director, Dr. Robert Redfield.

“My own personal opinion was the entire program (COVID) was designed to make a vaccine, a vaccine vector that could be used as a vaccine for a variety of different antigens, including COVID, but also including everything else, as a self-spreading, aerosolized respiratory transmitted vaccine.” - Dr. Robert Redfield

“I talked to several virologists and other people. This (Omicron variant) was created, this was released as a self-spreading vaccine. yeah….you needed the virus to evolve to a vaccine that didn’t cause much illness. Okay. And that’s what happened with Omicron.

https://substack.com/redirect/75016ee5-2767-4c38-b1c4-6b51023a7416?j=eyJ1IjoiNHJpanFkIn0.XkByYkhdfak5ZGBNvrvd_V3z8cWMZXPD5Nz7AjmvHCM

You also needed it to change where it replicated, if you want the virus to be spread........ "It’s a lot easier to spread a virus that replicates in the upper throat"......... then one that replicates in the lower lung. So, there are some people that believe that this was part of creating a vaccine vector.”

Redfield States That There’s Clear Data that the Chinese Were Working on a COVID Vaccine, aka The COVID Pandemic

“I think there’s pretty clear data that the Chinese were working on a COVID vaccine. probably before the COVID pandemic started, right?” - Dr. Robert Redfield

It’s not breaking news to the alternative media that the Chinese government has been working with US federal healthcare agencies and BioPharma research organizations on developing infectious, disease-causing biosynthetic pathogens using gain-of-function technology, including mRNA nanoparticle technology, for decades.

We know from the 2018 DARPA pitch and peer-reviewed publications that former NIAID Director Tony Fauci, the NIH, Ralph Baric, and EcoHealth Alliance were working on creating a ‘biosynthetic virus-vaccine’ using recombinant multi-species (chimeric) DNA spike proteins (mRNA) encapsulated in nanoparticle technology - aka vaccine nanotechnology.

Please keep in mind, that the higher-ups at some federal agencies and BioPharma organizations use the terms vaccines, viruses, spike proteins, recombinant DNA, gain-of-function viruses, mRNA, nanoparticle technology and bioweapons interchangeably, as they are all considered as dual-use technologies.

New NIAID Director Resurrects Deadly 1918 Flu Virus

During the interview, Dana Parish also asked Dr. Redfield what he thought of the new NIAID Director, Jeffrey Taubenberger, who many say is almost exactly like Fauci. Taubenberger conducted gain-of-function research to resurrect the deadly 1918 flu virus. Redfield responded by saying that he believes there should be a moratorium on gain-of-function research (which includes mRNA nanoparticle technology) and that Taubenberger has been careless.

COVID-19 mRNA Must Be Recalled

Redfield also emphasizes that the COVID-19 mRNA injections should be recalled immediately and that the FDA must come clean with all the injuries, diseases and deaths that they have caused.

Me: It is one thing to work in America on viruses and vaccines as biological weapons for use in time of war, keeping them safely in Level 4 Bio Labs, like Moderna's Covid-19 Neucloids virus from 2013 to 2020, it is quite another to deliberately release them on the peaceful world populations, to see what happens and how many get injured or killed, as Covid-19 wasn’t a “mismanaged public health crisis”. It was and remains a war. Sasha Latypova 27.10.2025

It must have been tremendously satisfying for a select few, to know they could try out their latest American vaccines/viruses, against the whole world population, with impunity. Be like kids with new toys - Fuck the Billions who have been killed in the process. Is that how progress evolves?

I thought the Moderna Covid virus/vaccines were probably Replicon, but since it was never said so, I could but wonder, however with the above revelation, what do you think and the nanoparticles, what did they intentionally do?

richard noakes's avatar

My Free Salt Water Cure:

We can argue the toss about viruses and if they exist or not until the Cows come home (for milking) but my take on it is that when someone sneezes or coughs and does not cover their nose or mouth, then they eject a fine spray of snot or phlegm in the form of an invisible floating cloud in the outside air, which we breathe in, as we walk through it, since we can't see it, blown hither and yon by the air currents. That infection goes into our nose, very much like a seed gets blown through the air and lands on soil, from whence it grows - just like a Dandelion seed, but this time in the warm wet areas in the insides of the nasal passages of our head, when sometimes, it becomes a disease, which is transported down into our body in the one liter of snot our heads produce daily, which flows down the back of our necks unnoticed, because it always has, the engine oil of the body. Hopefully you are a nose breather and NOT a mouth breather, so that you isolate an external infection to your head and not to the insides of your body, so train yourself to always breathe through your nose, as I have me. Vaccines are supposed to deal with the disease once it is in your body and kill it, which of course they don't - but my argument is why wait, kill it off in the nasal passages of your head, before it gets to be something much worse, which my free salt water cure does - my proof - over 35 years never ill from anything, where before my free salt water cure, all I had to do was look at someone ill, to get it myself. The other issue, obviously, is that when someone has an infection in their head, which they treat in their body - the original infection in their head is still there, it is just dormant until the next time it gets activated again, because it never got treated the first time, which my free salt water cure does - free because I wanted it to be available to everyone who wanted to use it, irrespective of how rich or poor they were and from household materials in everyone's home.... HHS, FDA and CDC insiders are finally coming forward with the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth regarding all things COVID-19. CDC Director under POTUS 45 Redfield states - You also needed the Omicron Nanoparticles variant to change where it replicated, if you want the virus to be spread. It’s a lot easier to spread a virus that replicates in the upper throat then one that replicates in the lower lung - October 6, 2025 - Karen Kingston Report 7.11.2025 - which my free salt water cure stops totally and pretty much immediately.

Mix one heaped teaspoon of salt in a mug of clean warm water. Go into your bathroom and swallow two mouthfuls to sort out anything which has got down there, then cup a hand, pour some of the mix into your cupped hand and sniff or snort the remaining mugful up your nose, in stages until all is gone. If you have a burning sensation you have a virus and the salt water is killing the virus infection in your head. It will burn for a few minutes (but won't hurt you otherwise) and then the pain will go away, so when it does, take some toilet paper off the toilet roll and blow your nose out in it, then flush that away, washing your hands afterwards. Do this simple cure 3 times a day, or more often for a quicker result, until when you flush, it feels like you are flushing with plain water and no pain is felt - job done. I have been doing this simple cure for over 35 years and in that time I have never been ill from any virus or more lately, being shedded on by the vaccinated. The salt water goes throughout your nasal passages, behind your eyes, ears, brain bulb brain stem - where for my money, Long Covid or FluMist likes to stay and when you get an infection in your head, there is nothing to stop it becoming, for the sake of example, Covid, the disease, which flows down into your body in the one liter of snot or mucus our head produces daily, the engine oil of your body - if flows down the back of your neck unnoticed because it is and always has been a lifetime thing - the top of your throat is at a point half way up your ears and not at mouth level, as you will quickly discover with my free salt water cure. I've never had a vaccine because I've never needed one and Injected vaccines (Gene Therapy Injections) and FluMist could deliberately kill you.

Salt= I use Supermarket bought Table Salt with Iodine in it, but any Salt is OK, depending on the best sort you can buy and use clean water too of course: Options for nasal rinse:

Water that has been boiled for 3 minutes then cooled before using - I use clean water which has been boiled in my hot water tank first. I test the water temperature before using it, make sure it is not too hot, allow to cool if necessary first - the one heaped teaspoon of salt, mixed in first, acts as a disinfectant too.

Steve Kirsch: NEVER do a nasal rinse with tap water. NEVER. Distilled water (the best option; this is what I always do).

sharon's avatar

Richard , it is not only in covid vaccines , it is in implants , and all meds that are carelessly put on humans , that are killing and disabling the people . Big pHARMa is a nefarious satanic cabal , for profit , they don't care who they kill . I would rather die than go to a hospital and be forced on their "protocols and drugs " . Just look at the murder they are putting on people with hernia injury , and "mesh" . Telling them they have new mesh , and the surgery is "out patient" . Unconscionable ! there are suffering people over believing the lies that big pHARMa puts out there .

richard noakes's avatar

If America had not released Moderna's Covid-19 virus in China in 2019, then there could not have been a world wide Covid pandemic, could there? - Senator Tuberville said It was done on purpose (see below), but who had the authority to do that? :

As reported in 1819 News, on Monday, July 14 2025, Senator Tuberville spoke to the Alabama Grocers Association about the financial difficulties the country faces. Following his remarks about the U.S. government’s enormous deficit spending, he mentioned the COVID-19 pandemic

Covid absolutely destroyed our country, and we allowed it to happen through federal regulations and shutting down schools, nobody going to work, our health care went to hell in a handbasket. It was devastating, and where did it start?

It started in North Carolina. They shipped it to Wuhan, China. They released it there, and look what happened? At the end of the day, you're going to find out, and of course, everybody said this was a conspiracy theory: it was done on purpose. Made us all sick. It wasn't as bad physically for those of us that didn't have bad health problems. If you had a bad health problem, you really struggled with it, but when POTUS 45 was in.

America held The Covid-19 virus in a Level 4 Bio Lab from 2013 to 2019, but for 6 years, in North Carolina before releasing it in Wuhan, China, as a Military Project, at the Military Games there, where 100 Countries sent their Military Athletes to compete (according to a document suppressed by Biden, released in 2025) and that is how the virus was spread around the world by America as a Military Operation - Servicemembers were deployed to conduct mass murder faked as a "public health emergency". Now they might be for sale. That said, adding up the best official figures that can be found (by Chat GPT and other internet searches) yields a conservative estimate of approximately 600,000 - 800,000 military personnel deployed worldwide by the end of 2020. The true cumulative headcount was almost certainly higher Covid-19 wasn’t a “mismanaged public health crisis”. It was and remains a war. Sasha Latypova 27.10.2025 and Senator Tuberville 1819 News on Monday, July 14 2025 and the vaccines which in America, POTUS 45 released after he used the Prep Act at least 10 times, to force his vaccines onto America and the World at the same time as Tedos in Europe and AUKUS for England, Australia and America and Albert Bourla said in a statement that Operation Warp Speed and the development of COVID-19 vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna “is a profound public health achievement” (It was and remains a war, as above) that was achieved under the leadership of Trump during the president’s first term - by Zachary Stieber Senior Reporter 9/3/2025 Epoch Times

You will recall that in America, those who refused to be vaccinated, in the Armed Forces, were removed and returned to Civvy Street.......

richard noakes's avatar

How many military personnel worldwide were deployed for committing mass murder while faking the COVID-19 pandemic response?

The numbers are jaw dropping, even though they are available only for 1 year (2020) and this is difficult to estimate precisely. Different countries counted “deployment” in different ways (some reported people on standby, some gave peak concurrent headcount, others gave cumulative person‑days).

That said, adding up the best official figures that can be found (by Chat GPT and other internet searches) yields a conservative estimate of approximately 600,000 - 800,000 military personnel deployed worldwide by the end of 2020. The true cumulative headcount was almost certainly higher. The breakdown is as follows:

NATO (30 countries): NATO’s own year‑end note states that “across the Alliance, almost half a million troops supported the civilian response” in 2020 (field hospitals, testing, logistics, border support, etc.) [NATO]

United States: ~45,000 National Guard activated at peak (late May/June 2020). ~37,000 were on COVID‑specific missions as of 18 Jun 2020. ~9.1 million Guard duty‑days in calendar 2020. (Active‑duty support was additional.)

Australia: The Australian Defence Force’s Operation COVID‑19 Assist ultimately involved >18,000 personnel, with a peak of ~3,500 in September 2020. [Australian National Audit Office]

United Kingdom (Op RESCRIPT) ~4,000 committed on most days; up to ~20–23k at readiness/standby. (MoD/House of Commons Library.)

Germany (Amtshilfe / “Hilfeleistung”) >6,000 soldiers on task at peak (Nov 2020); 15,000 on standby; snapshots include 1,400 concurrently on 12 Oct and 4,366 directly assisting on 5 Nov.

Spain (Operación Balmis: Mar–Jun 2020): 188,713 cumulative personnel rotated through (this is included in NATO total); ~8,000 deployed on the worst days (MoD reporting & detailed wrap‑ups).

France (Opération Résilience) No single national 2020 headcount published. Documented activities include field ICU (EMR) at Mulhouse, inter‑hospital/sea‑air medical lifts, and logistics, but official sources in 2020 didn’t provide a consolidated headcount.

Italy: ~1,400 personnel in Operazione IGEA testing teams (Nov 2020). Other tasks (e.g., Strade Sicure augmentation, logistics) were substantial but not consolidated into a 2020 national headcount.

Poland: ≥20,000 soldiers engaged by Oct 2020 (MoD statement summarized in peer‑reviewed analysis), including Territorial Defense Forces.

Canada (Op LASER): ~1,700 CAF personnel deployed to Long‑Term Care facilities in ON/QC (Apr–Jun 2020). A 24,000‑person standby response force was raised.

Brazil: By September 2020, 28,729 Brazilian service members had been mobilized under Operação COVID‑19 (later rising further); government reporting around the same period also cites ~34,000 personnel employed. (I count the lower, verified figure for the floor.) [Agência Brasil]

Mexico: Mexico’s 2020 security report shows 49,585 personnel assigned across Plan DN‑III‑E / Plan Marina / National Guard tasks related to COVID‑19; an academic review the same year estimated 47,864 soldiers and sailors (i.e., excluding civilian police) supporting the response. (For a conservative, strictly‑military floor, I count ~47.9k.) [Gobierno de México]

China: The PLA publicly reported >4,000 military medical personnel deployed to Wuhan/Hubei during the early 2020 surge. (This is a narrow count—just PLA medics—so it likely understates broader PLA support.) [PMC+State Council of China+eng.mod.gov.cn].

Japan: MOD/JSDF documents confirm ~2,700 personnel for the Diamond Princess and related early 2020 tasks (later missions added more) [mod.go.jp].

New Zealand: ~1,200 NZDF personnel were rotating through Managed Isolation & Quarantine duties by October 2020 (Operation Protect) [nzdf.mil.nz].

South Africa: Operation Notlela authorized very large numbers, but reliable reporting indicates ~8,000 SANDF members actually deployed at a time by October 2020 (media claims of 70,000 were later debunked as authorizations/standby rather than bodies on the ground) [defenceWeb].

How does this compare to an “actual war”?

As an example, the total number of U.S. military personnel deployed in the Iraq War in the 2003 invasion of Iraq phase involved about 160,000 U.S. troops at its peak in 2007 [Wikipedia]. Over the duration of operations in Iraq (including occupation, surge, draw-down), more than 1.5 million U.S. service members deployed between March 2003 and December 2011, i.e. during 8 years of war [Watson Brown University].

Covid-19 wasn’t a “mismanaged public health crisis”. It was and remains a war.

Sasha Latypova 27.10.2025

Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

Notice how these large medical associations use scare tactics to deter the public away from natural remedies yet never away from their profit advancing drugs and procedures? It’s the same song and dance.

Dr Yoho recently posted on high dose melatonin research, primarily for cancer. I have been watching Dr. Vasquez’s videos as well on high dosing safety. I was taught, even in my holistic education, to use only low dosing, so this high dosing, potentially for cancer/cancer prevention is something of interest. Any thoughts?

LMS's avatar
Nov 7Edited

Excellent! I knew someone sane in the natural medicine community would explain this article, thank you. I did not know prescription melatonin existed. I have tried over-the-counter melatonin products serveral times to regain my dream recall. I don't like the way any of them, any form of them, even tiny doses make me feel the next day- groggy, fuzzy-headed, dopey. I now use organic tart cherry powder instead. My body uses it as it wants, no groggy, fuzzy-headedness, no dopeyness & my dream recall is much improved. I trust my body's innate wisdom= this is the difference between natural medicine & the allopathic medicine death cult= natural medicine recognizes the wisdom of the body & Nature. Thank you for showing us how this spurious conclusion was concocted.

Barbara Charis's avatar

Our body produces melatonin through the pineal gland and we would have enough, if we simply ate right...and avoided processed foods. I try to eat as much raw food as possible. I was having a problem sleeping, so i used some melatonin supplements, which didn't help me sleep. However, I started changing my daily routine; getting up at 6:3o am and exercising every day for an hour...fast walking out in the sunshine. I am so grateful to get in bed at night by 9:30 pm; and no more problem falling asleep. My next free weekly newsletter: Recipe for Wellness: DIY Ingredients...based on 64 years of health research barbaracharis.substack.com

Marice Nelson's avatar

10 mg seems a lot to me, I use 2.5 mg sublingual

Sayer Ji's avatar

I don't advocate anyone take large amounts, given the more you take the more it can suppress endogenous production (already low in most who take it). Smaller doses, say 1mg-3mg, sublingually, would be ideal, and only for a period of time when it is deemed necessary. Long term use had real down sides. The best thing is to identify the many lifestyle modifiable factors that lead to low production, which includes pineal gland calcification, which is reversible.

Robert Johnston's avatar

I was taught that melatonin was the sleep hormone that participated during sleep.

I was not aware that 95% of melatonin production occurs during the Kreb cycle pathway within the mitochondria.

The melatonin is utilized to promote the Kreb cycle pathway and prevent the enzyme PDK

(pyruvate dehydrogenase kinase) from inactivating the PDC ( pyruvate dehydrogenase complex) which is necessary in converting pyruvate into acetyl Co-A which allows the mitochondria to normally make energy through the TCA or the Kreb cycle as well as create melatonin!

Tom's avatar

Thank you for the article and that link. The one thing in the article today that concerned me was the downregulation of the pineal gland with continued melatonin use. This is our link to Source, and Dr, Carey;s Christos work tells us that the Sacred Secretion process conserving the Christos Oil once a month in conjunction with our Moon sign produces regenerative properties, with the pineal and pituitary glands being the final part of the process.

I have been using your book to be encouraged to regenerate from heart failure, am now completely off meds after a short time, and doing great, so I know this is an important part of your messages.

Weston Price follower Nora Gedgaudas, in her book Primal Body Primal Mind, reveals that he discovered the common denominator among cultures with clean pineal glands was K-2.

I sleep well without melatonin now, so it goes in the reserve box.

STH's avatar

What are those downsides specifically? Doris Loh would not agree with you. I’m a cancer survivor and I take 80-100mg every night.

Sayer Ji's avatar

It depends on the person. In some cases, melatonin is literally a life-saver. In fact, I wrote about the cancer/melatonin connection recently: Sleep Aid, Cancer Crusader? Mounting Data Suggests Melatonin Belongs in Oncology https://greenmedinfo.com/content/sleep-aid-cancer-crusader-mounting-data-suggests-melatonin-belongs-oncology

sharon's avatar

both my husband and myself (77-80) take high dose melatonin . I feel confident that I would not be posting this if we had not started many years ago . Please see Doris Loh . and Russel Reiter's work , on utube , and they do research papers too. you are listening to big pHARMa 's gaslighting .

sharon's avatar

Respectfully , it does depend on the person , when I started taking melatonin 30 years ago ,I was taking 3 mg. It was after taking 3mg. for 10 years before I heard the Dr Shallenberger (Reordan Clinic) video , and that led me to Russel Reiter, and Doris Loh and I began taking higher dose melatonin . But a person is on their own . It takes time and trial to get to the dose that helps you . The 3mg. dose was not adequate for me to sleep for 8 hours . I learned from Reiter (utube) he takes 180mg. a day (he is in his 80s). Dr Shallenberger was giving his patients that dose . That was what I used as a guide .

sharon's avatar

you are correct ! I take many times more than you do . And take it 4 times a day . I have had lifelong insomnia, causing many symptoms , But after study on it , I have learned better , the one video that motivated me to start , was from Shalllenberg . and that was 20 years ago . Amazing ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_umgN-OFqzc&t=90s

Robert Johnston's avatar

Thank you Sayer, Dr. John Lieurance book: Melatonin Miracle Molecule Beyond Sleep: Fight infections, Degenerative Neurologic Disease, Depression, Auto-Immunity, Aging, Heart Disease & Cancer

He has been using 800 mg of melatonin for months and found no challenges when abruptly discontinuing supplementation.

I would appreciate your opinion.

Debbity's avatar

Hi Sayer, can you provide any documentation that melatonin supplementation suppresses endogenous production? I've read repeatedly that it doesn't. Also as far as long-term use down sides, do we even have any long-term studies? And yes, modifiable factors lead to low production, but so does aging itself.

agi's avatar

I've been taking it for many years for endometriosis, not sleep. In rats, it stops the spreading of the endometriosis tissue.

I'm only using 20 mgs but Dr. Robert Yoho, who researched the subject thoroughly says the efficient dose is somewhere around 200 mgs...

If you check the supplements available you notice that it's very hard to find pills with proper content... you have to research if you want 20 mg or sometimes even 10 mg...

Obviously this cannot be a coincidence...they do everything to make all substances that really work disappear, and when they don't succeed ....then just make rules that a big enough dosage which would really work, can't be sold. That's it mostly I'm afraid... you can see the pattern with CBD oil, vitamin D, anything...

sharon's avatar

I buy the melatonin powder for high dose .

Jenifer's avatar

How can you reverse it?

Oscar's avatar

Poor sleep is extremely detrimental to good health. Using a natural sleep aid is going to have beneficial effects without the side effects of bigharma poisons.

Oscar's avatar

And the pharma world & government have the balls to say the alternative media and health practitioners that are not medical spread misinformation.

This is blatant and dangerous.

Neil weiner's avatar

The NY times should change their slogan to "all the news that is fit to print or make up, as determined by the pharmaceutical industry ".